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Rush (progressive rock band)

Post by Zoot Allures on Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:34 pm



from left: geddy lee (bass/keyboards/vocals), alex lifeson (guitar), neil peart (percussion)

the baddest fucking power trio you'll ever hear.

good quality headphones ONLY.


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Re: Rush (progressive rock band)

Post by Zoot Allures on Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:50 pm

As grey traces of dawn tinge the eastern sky,
the three travelers, men of Willowdale,
emerge from the forest shadow.

Fording the River Dawn, they turn south, journeying
into the dark and forbidding lands of the necromancer
Even now the intensity of his dread power can be felt,
weakening the body and saddening the heart

Ultimately they will become empty, mindless spectres...
stripped of will and soul,
only their thirst for freedom gives them hunger for vengeance...

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Re: Rush (progressive rock band)

Post by Barracuda on Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:05 am

Enjoyable.


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Post by Zoot Allures on Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:04 am

oh you like Rush, huh? then here's one you've got to listen to. an epic song, lyrics/storyline written by Neil Peart (drummer). this song is a testament to progressive rock at its highest level.

the composition is brilliant, cinematic, symbolizing each stage of the story. this song is relevent here especially because it's very philosophical, as you'll observe in the lyrics below (i think saully would love it). there is one correction to be made, though: it was prometheus who gave fire to man, not apollo. we'll let this mistake go though because Peart wasn't a greek historian or mythologist. the contrast between apollo and dionysus is perfect done, though. you'll see that without each, man remains incomplete.

an interesting question, for me, is what cygnus is (other than the constellation) in the song; the  bringer of balance. in another album they reference cygnus X-1, in which a blackhole exists. could this be the bringer of balance- the black hole? anyway, this song is a masterpiece.  

[I. Prelude]

When our weary world was young
The struggle of the ancients first began
The gods of love and reason
Sought alone to rule the fate of man

They battled through the ages
But still neither force would yield
The people were divided
Every soul a battlefield

[II. Apollo / Dionysus]

[Apollo: Bringer Of Wisdom]
'I bring truth and understanding
I bring wit and wisdom fair
Precious gifts beyond compare
We can build a world of wonder
I can make you all aware
I will find you food and shelter
Show you fire to keep you warm
Through the endless winter storm
You can live in grace and comfort
In the world that you transform'

The people were delighted
Coming forth to claim their prize
They ran to build their cities
And converse among the wise
But one day the streets fell silent
Yet they knew not what was wrong
The urge to build these fine things
Seemed not to be so strong
The wise men were consulted
And the Bridge of Death was crossed
In quest of Dionysus
To find out what they had lost

[Dionysus: Bringer Of Love]
'I bring love to give you solace
In the darkness of the night
In the Heart's eternal light
You need only trust your feelings
Only love can steer you right
I bring laughter, I bring music
I bring joy and I bring tears
I will soothe your primal fears
Throw off those chains of reason
And your prison disappears'

The cities were abandoned
And the forests echoed song
They danced and lived as brothers
They knew love could not be wrong
Food and wine they had aplenty
And they slept beneath the stars
The people were contented
And the gods watched from afar
But the winter fell upon them
And it caught them unprepared
Bringing wolves and cold starvation
And the hearts of men despaired

[III. Armageddon: The Battle Of Heart and Mind]

The universe divided
As the heart and mind collided
With the people left unguided
For so many troubled years
In a cloud of doubts and fears
Their world was torn asunder into hollow
Hemispheres

Some fought themselves, some fought each other
Most just followed one another
Lost and aimless like their brothers
For their hearts were so unclear
And the truth could not appear
Their spirits were divided into blinded
Hemispheres

Some who did not fight
Brought tales of old to light
'My Rocinante sailed by night
On her final flight'
To the heart of Cygnus' fearsome force
We set our course
Spiralled through that timeless space
To this immortal place

[IV. Cygnus: Bringer Of Balance]

I have memory and awareness
But I have no shape or form
As a disembodied spirit
I am dead and yet unborn
I have passed into Olympus
As was told in tales of old
To the city of Immortals
Marble white and purest gold...

I see the gods in battle rage on high...
Thunderbolts across the sky...
I cannot move, I cannot hide...
I feel a silent scream begin inside...

Then all at once the chaos ceased
A stillness fell, a sudden peace
The warriors felt my silent cry
And stayed their struggle, mystified

Apollo was astonished
Dionysus thought me mad
But they heard my story further
And they wondered, and were sad

Looking down from Olympus
On a world of doubt and fear
Its surface splintered
Into sorry Hemispheres

They sat a while in silence
Then they turned at last to me
'We will call you Cygnus
The god of Balance you shall be'

[V. The Sphere: A Kind Of Dream]

We can walk our road together
If our goals are all the same
We can run alone and free
If we pursue a different aim
Let the truth of love be lighted
Let the love of truth shine clear
Sensibility
Armed with sense and liberty
With the heart and mind united in a single
Perfect
Sphere



* standing ovation!!! *

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Re: Rush (progressive rock band)

Post by Zoot Allures on Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:35 am

wait! it's the protagonist that become cygnus! it was the moment the gods heard his cry that their war ceased. profoundly moved (maybe even embarrassed?) by this, they made him the god of balance. oh man, there is incredible subtext here. i am positively giddy. man must become a god incarnate... a synthesis of the olympian gods. don't you see?!

our gift from the gods is our responsibility and the power that comes with it.

i haven't listened to this song in over fifteen years, and thanks to you, barracuda, i've just had a breakthrough.

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Post by Zoot Allures on Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:52 am

whoa. check this out. apparently the protagonist flies into the blackhole, and through that hole in space/time he becomes disembodied. it is here that he realizes he's in olympus. this is where he sees the gods in battle, and everything follows from there.

the blackhole is a portal.

this is too much man. i am freaking out.

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Re: Rush (progressive rock band)

Post by Zoot Allures on Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:04 am

alright now listen to this one but after book 2, hemispheres. everything is connected man; you'll see the references of the ship Rocinante, above. my italics added.

In the constellation of Cygnus
There lurks a mysterious, invisible force
The Black Hole of Cygnus X-1
Six stars of the northern cross
In mourning for their sister's loss
In a final flash of glory
Nevermore to grace the night


discovering the blackhole


Invisible
To telescopic eye
Infinity
The star that would not die
All who dare
To cross her course
Are swallowed by
A fearsome force
Through the void
To be destroyed
Or is there something more?
Atomized, at the core
Or through the astral door
To soar


approach and entrance


I set a course just east of Lyra
And northwest of Pegasus
Flew into the light of Deneb
Sailed across the Milky Way
On my ship, the 'Rocinante'
Wheeling through the galaxies,
Headed for the heart of Cygnus
Headlong into mystery
The x-ray is her siren song
My ship cannot resist her long
Nearer to my deadly goal
Until the black hole
Gains control


the passage through; strange space/time distortion; violent transformation


Spinning, whirling
Still descending
Like a spiral sea
Unending


(in double time! wtf! this is madness!)


Sound and fury
Drowns my heart
Every nerve
Is torn apart


physical body destroyed; enter olympus (see Hemispheres Book 2)




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Re: Rush (progressive rock band)

Post by Barracuda on Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:35 am

Wait hold on. I was talking about the conversation with your mother.
But now I have listen to that other thing too.

Ill be back.


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Re: Rush (progressive rock band)

Post by Zoot Allures on Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:00 pm

how anticlimactic.





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Post by Zoot Allures on Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:14 pm

we're on a roll, B. might as well keep going. eventually i'll compile all these posts into a Rush thread. this song is called Natural Science. my italics.

genesis of life in the oceans; monomeric and polymeric life evolves in pools

When the ebbing tide retreats
Along the rocky shoreline
It leaves a trail of tidal pools
In a short-lived galaxy
Each microcosmic planet
A complete society

A simple kind mirror
To reflect upon our own
All the busy little creatures
Chasing out their destinies
Living in their pools
They soon forget about the sea


extraordinary complexity evolves


Wheels within wheels
In a spiral array
A pattern so grand and complex
Time after time
We lose sight of the way
Our causes can't see their effects



creation event > the present



A quantum leap forward
In time and space
The universe learned to expand

The mess and the magic
Triumphant and tragic
A mechanized world, out of hand



modern man; scientific skepticism; techne; digital age, etc.



Computerized clinic
For superior cynics
Who dance to a synthetic band

In their own image
Their world is fashioned
No wonder they don't understand


Wheels within wheels
In a spiral array
A pattern so grand and complex
Time after time
We lose sight of the way
Our causes can't see their effects


enlightenment; resolution


Science, like nature
Must also be tamed
With a view towards its preservation
Given the same
State of integrity
It will surely serve us well

Art as expression,
Not as market campaigns
Will still capture our imaginations
Given the same
State of integrity
It will surely help us along

The most endangered species
The honest man
Will still survive annihilation
Forming a world
State of integrity
Sensitive, open and strong


process of eternal recurrence; new genesis


Wave after wave
Will flow with the tide
And bury the world as it does
Tide after tide
Will flow and recede
Leaving life to go on
As it was


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Re: Rush (progressive rock band)

Post by Zoot Allures on Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:47 pm

Tobes of Hades, lit by flickering torchlight
The netherworld is gathered in the glare
Prince By-Tor takes the cavern to the north light
The sign of Eth is rising in the air

By-Tor, knight of darkness
Centurion of evil, devil's prince!





Across the River Styx, out of the lamplight
His nemesis is waiting at the gate
The Snow Dog, ermine glowing in the damp night
Coal-black eyes shimmering with hate




By-Tor and the Snow Dog
Square for battle, let the fray begin!


1:46: the battle- guitar 1 (snow dog) and guitar 2 (by-tor) duel





The battle's over and the dust is clearing
Disciples of the Snow Dog sound the knell
Rejoicing echoes as the dawn is nearing
By-Tor, in defeat, retreats to Hell

Snow Dog is victorious!
The land of the Overworld is saved again


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Re: Rush (progressive rock band)

Post by Zoot Allures on Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:35 pm




All this machinery
Making modern music
Can still be open-hearted
Not so coldly charted
It's really just a question
Of your honesty, yeah your honesty

One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity, yeah






lyrics: Spirit of the Radio, from Permanent Waves Album (Rush)

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Re: Rush (progressive rock band)

Post by Zoot Allures on Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:42 pm

Stay! Go!

Work! No!

Learn! Live!

Earn! Give!

Stay or fight?

What's right?





LISTEN!





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Post by Zoot Allures on Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:57 pm

Sweet memories
Flashing very quickly by
Reminding me
And giving me a reason why
I know that
My goal is more than a thought
I'll be there
When I teach what I've been taught
And I've been taught...

You know we've told you before
But you didn't hear us then
So you still question why
No! You didn't listen again!

You didn't listen again


Sweet memories
I never thought it would be like this
Reminding me
Just how close I came to missing
I know that
This is the way for me to go
You'll be there
When you know what I know
And I know...

You know we've told you before
But you didn't hear us then
So you still question why
No! You didn't listen again!

No....oh no

You didn't listen again...



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Post by Zoot Allures on Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:54 pm

There is unrest in the forest
There is trouble with the trees
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their pleas





The trouble with the maples
And they're quite convinced they're right
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light
But the oaks can't help their feelings
If they like the way they're made
And they wonder why the maples
Can't be happy in their shade?



There is trouble in the forest
And the creatures all have fled
As the maples scream 'oppression!'
And the oaks, just shake their heads


2:53: 10/4 meter.....nice!


So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights
'The oaks are just too greedy
We will make them give us light'
Now there's no more oak oppression
For they passed a noble law
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet,
Axe,and saw






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Re: Rush (progressive rock band)

Post by Zoot Allures on Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:02 pm

who writes songs like this? i thought every song had to be about falling in/out of love, or bustin' caps at dem niggas, or waving your hands in the air like you just don't care, or how miserable/angry you are.

once upon a time musicians and the music they made actually had some creativity and substance. i know, right? wtf happened?

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Post by Zoot Allures on Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:33 pm

I looked in the mirror today
My eyes just didn't seem so bright
I've lost a few more hairs
I think I'm... I'm going bald

I think I'm goin' bald!





Seems like only yesterday
We would sit and talk of dreams all night
Dreams of youth
And simple truths
Now we're so involved
So involved with life

Walk down vanity fair
Memory lane everywhere
Wall Street shuffles there
Dressed in flowing hair

Once we loved the flowers
Now we ask the price of the land
Once we would take water
But now it must be wine
Now we've been
And now we've seen
What price peace of mind

Take a piece of my mind

My life is slipping away
I'm aging every day
But even when I'm grey
I'll still be grey my way


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Post by Zoot Allures on Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:24 am

The clouds prepare for battle
In the dark and brooding silence
Bruised and sullen stormclouds
Have the light of day obscured
Looming low and ominous
In twilight premature
Thunderheads are rumbling
In a distant overture






All at once,
The clouds are parted
Light streams down
In bright unbroken beams





4:55- alternate 6/4 and 7/4 meters... work, neil! (drummer). see if you can stay with him....


Follow men’s eyes
As they look to the skies
The shifting shafts of shining
Weave the fabric of their dreams




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Post by Zoot Allures on Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:39 am




okay for a still-picture vid.

i have only one objection. i don't like the reference to national socialism and the KKK as examples of unreasonable discrimination (like the witchhunts). i say this because racial and cultural tensions and conflicts are VERY REAL, unlike the problems created by witches, which are largely imaginary or harmless.

am i worried about an integrated society? nah. it will work itself out; for whatever reasons why almost a third of the black population in this country is either on welfare or in prison, the country demonstrates its strength by being able to incorporate these degenerate elements into it without losing its vigor. waste and decay are always part of the process of social evolution. the question is whether or not a social organism can continue to progress when parts of it are sick. for all intents and purposes, the U.S. is doing okay even with almost one third of its thirteen percent black population being parasites.  

and those people who are seduced by such degenerate culture? they don't matter. the fact that were were seduced indicates their lack of cultural integrity in the first place.

at the same time, white trash redneck organizations like the KKK are a joke... not because of what they stand for, but because the people in them are seldom any better than the people they despise. the color of a piece of useless shit is not always brown, figuratively speaking.

but i digress. this is the Rush thread, not the sociology thread.

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Post by Zoot Allures on Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:08 am

this is a damn good question. i hadn't even noticed until now.

at 9:07 in The Necromancer, he appears as the champion to destroy the necromancer... but in By-Tor and The Snow Dog, he's an evil prince. wtf, man?

http://www.therushforum.com/index.php?/topic/48098-by-tor/

"he's a gutless flip-flopper"- solar federalist

LOL!!!

Fly By Night was the album preceding Caress of Steel, so maybe after he lost the fight with The Snow Dog, he had a change of heart?

let us ponder this.

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Re: Rush (progressive rock band)

Post by Zoot Allures on Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:35 am

oh wait. it's never explicitly mentioned that The Snow Dog is good, only that he's the nemesis of By-Tor, so being beaten by The Snow Dog wouldn't necessarily make By-Tor good. well it could but not because he was beaten by a 'good' enemy... there's a difference.

i dunno. maybe being beaten by a dog in general was enough to cause By-Tor to really question his opinion about himself. i mean how bad-ass can you be if you get beaten by a dog, right? a dragon or a minotaur or a cyclops, sure, but a dog?

The Snow Dog is no ordinary dog, though. i dunno. hard to say what By-Tor was thinking when he changed from a bad guy to a good guy.

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Post by Zoot Allures on Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:42 pm

they're asked about Permanent Waves, the album that followed Hemispheres.

Neil explains the difficulty in writing Hemispheres, and the decision to stop writing textured, conceptual pieces... focusing more on writing single songs for the following albums. Geddy agrees, saying Hemispheres took a lot out of em.

when asked if the band thought the music industry was digressing back to minimal rock-n-roll, Geddy says 'there's certainly some bands that have gone back to basics, but those are the bands that can't do anything but play basics.'

when asked if they could go see a band, who would they see, Geddy replies 'i'd go see Yes in a second.'

Geddy and Alex admit that Neil is the better lyrics writer, while Neil admits Geddy and Alex are better at writing the music. three peas in a pod.

and what's the deal with Alex's hair? it's not even 1985 yet!

btw, love the glasses, Geddy.


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Post by Zoot Allures on Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:03 pm

i've heard rock journalists and critics say that Neil's one of the greatest rock drummers. i'm not sure if these journalists are aware of what's going on here. in the genre of 'rock', there is nobody greater than Neil Peart. this is not a debate. you ask any rock drummer and they will admit this, personally. this isn't ringo star or charlie watts or nick mason or phil rudd on the skins here, people.  

(i will exclude the drummers that Zappa used, but Zappa's music was only marginally rock-n-roll)

look at his old ass... still gettin' it.





and look! somewhere else in the world a little Neil is just starting out...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JL7jIshPjM

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Post by Zoot Allures on Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:17 pm

you won't believe what i found. a 2112 comic book of the album. i was just getting ready to throw together a post for the album myself and i came across this. i simply can't compete with this.

2112 is one of their older concept albums. briefly, the story line is like this: a futuristic dystopian society on a planet given to the meek, by the solar federation, eventually becomes ruled by priests. one of it's citizens discovers an acoustic guitar hidden behind a waterfall by someone from the elder race, and brings it before the priests. the priests, who suppress any form of creative art not sanctioned by the law, reject it. after returning home he has a dream in which he is confronted by an oracle, who tells him the history of the elder race that left the planet long ago. finally the citizen despairs and leaves the city, retreating to his secret place. after all hope is lost, he contemplates his death...

then, all of a sudden, fighter jets dispatched by transport ships hovering above the planet, descend from the skies, attacking the city and its defenses. a fleet has come to destroy the priests and take back control of the planet. the elder race has returned!

(FULL SCREEN VIEW REQUIRED)



attention all pilots of the solar federation

we have assumed control...




*standing ovation!!!!*


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Post by Zoot Allures on Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:48 pm

^^^ read again: important details recently added. (my bad)

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