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    is it too much to ask for some Elvis


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    Post by Barracuda on Thu May 24, 2018 5:36 pm

    All philosophers are lower class or feel like it. Because an aristocrat looks to a philosopher as to a typing monkey.

    One who is happy precisely with the world as it is needs no wisdom, and certainly no revolutions.

    This is why people like Carnegie and Emerson don't reach that pitch of intensity and consequentiality that philosophers do, even though they may understand things in very elegant and righteous ways. They lack the need for heroic risks, and thats what philosophy is about, the big gamble with the future.


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    Post by Faustian_Man on Fri May 25, 2018 5:35 pm

    We all crave and seek the Dionysian, no doubt, but such a thing can only be fully experienced as something that occurs within and contrasted against civilizational order. The notion of kink, taboo, all sorts of dark enticements, are only understood as contrarian rejection of orderliness, drudgery, and that is precisely why this sort of thing is so enticing. In a pure state of nature, the sheer struggle for survival, rape and mortal danger Chaos couldn’t be celebrated, or even understood, because there is no frame of reference, nor is there any recourse to justice, or any of the mechanisms that have permitted humans to achieve a measure of differentiation from our animal kin, their time is entirely consumed by necessity of survival, contemplative examination of life dynamics is unavailable in this situation. We need the Apollonian, that we might fully savor the lush grapes of Dionysus

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    Post by Faustian_Man on Sat May 26, 2018 5:30 am

    If this snippet of Alanis Moresette was directed at me, I can only say, how pedestrian! Someone I respect suggested that I post that comment in this thread, never in my wildest dreams did I anticipate being trolled, particularly asinine indeed. If I am targeted by a shambolic troll, hencfourth let my troll express an original thought! Skewer me by all means, but please don’t resort to such blatant plebeianism. Perhaps I’m in the wrong place.

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    If this snippet of Alanis Moresette was directed at me, I can only say, how pedestrian!

    i know, right! and you know what else? that thing she does with her voice; "you-EW, you-EW, you-EW oughta know!" what the hell is that? the cranberries chick already does that. it's not right.

    still, alanis warrants some respect because she did go to india, and was quite thankful of the experience.

    If I am targeted by a shambolic troll, hencfourth let my troll express an original thought! Skewer me by all means, but please don’t resort to such blatant plebeianism.

    i shant henceforth indulge thy adversary with reproach. nay, from this day forth shall i troll not, for with grace hast thou offered thyself and thy friendship. of foolishness no more shall i be the knave!

    no seriously, relax, shakespeare, you're not being trolled. that audio wasn't directed toward you. it was 'randomly' (non metaphysically) posted. and rest assured, you are at the right place. this site is composed of some of the finest minds on the internet... all five of them. we are a cultured people with a vast array of intellectual interests.
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    Post by Faustian_Man on Sat May 26, 2018 11:44 am

    Sry bro...I was loaded a few hours ago when I wrote that. I had just gotten home from work, whiskey was a factor, but mostly my misplaced ire stems from the fact that at my job, the Cranberries and Alanis Morsette songs are frequently blasted at levels approaching 120 decibels and after so many years of suffering through my own personal misfortune of being held hostage to the spectacle, the nerves fray, hence my drunken public outburst. Not a good look for a random interloper to make his introduction.
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    _________________
    "The condition of man... is a condition of war of everyone against everyone."

    "I put for the general inclination of all mankind, a perpetual and restless desire of power after power, that ceaseth only in death."

    -Thomas Hobbes-

    "History is a set of lies agreed upon." - Napoleon Bonaparte

    “To judge from the notions expounded by theologians, one must conclude that God created most men simply with a view to crowding hell.”― Marquis de Sade

    “Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
    ― Robert A. Heinlein

    "Republicans are red and democrats are blue, neither political party gives a flying fuck about you." - Unknown Origin

    “In the architecture of their life some may display Potemkin happiness in view of hiding the dark features of their fair weather relationship, preferring to set up a window dressing of fake satisfaction rather than being rejected as emotional outcasts." Erik Pevernagie

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    Post by Mitra-Sauwelios on Sun May 27, 2018 2:08 am

    Faustian_Man wrote:We all crave and seek the Dionysian, no doubt, but such a thing can only be fully experienced as something that occurs within and contrasted against civilizational order. The notion of kink, taboo, all sorts of dark enticements, are only understood as contrarian rejection of orderliness, drudgery, and that is precisely why this sort of thing is so enticing. In a pure state of nature, the sheer struggle for survival, rape and mortal danger Chaos couldn’t be celebrated, or even understood, because there is no frame of reference, nor is there any recourse to justice, or any of the mechanisms that have permitted humans to achieve a measure of differentiation from our animal kin, their time is entirely consumed by necessity of survival, contemplative examination of life dynamics is unavailable in this situation. We need the Apollonian, that we might fully savor the lush grapes of Dionysus

    Good stuff. I even tend to think one should be as Apollonian, or as conservative of conventional morality, as possible, since the god Liber is like entropy, anyway: the loosening of custom tends to happen even without active effort on the part of society. And such loosening can be a good thing only insofar as the bow was strung. I must add though that Modernity, and already Platonism, is a special case: liberalism was paradoxically made law by them. We need an immoralised moralism to confound their moralised immoralism: the threat against humanity is now too great.


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    https://vocaroo.com/i/s0lWorrS4M3N

    It looks as though you're letting go, Faustian man, and if it's real then I don't want to know.


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