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    Post by Z13 on Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:45 pm

    "... he'd just be sitting there smiling at whoever came into the room like he knew a secret..."

    "... some claim he spoke to them... and all reported he said the same thing, which was; well I beat all of you, didn't I..."

    "... Bundy's expression, as told by the guard, is said to be of a knowing smile, as if he knew something important about the afterlife that they didn't..."



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    Once it is understood that much of the philosophy language game isn't to be thought of as something that is qualified by being 'right or wrong', but rather by and through the use of it's application, the next question becomes; use for what?

    Now it gets a little more interesting. The use is most often metapsychologistic, if you will. Meaning, since such games cannot be understood as right or wrong, they have to be motivated by something else other than pure inquiry. What are the metamotivations?

    I'm afraid they are rather simple and human. Posters trying to impress, gain admiration and reverence, approval, acceptance, recognition... and when in hostile contexts, provoke, insult, cause feelings of envy and inferiority, embarrass, so on and so forth.

    And while all this is happening, posters aren't aware of what they're doing since they aren't aware that there can only be in the rarest circumstances, motivations other than this. One doesn't choose this. It's simply a natural consequence of the rules governing the uses of philosophical language games. In other words, one cannot possibly be concerned with 'finding and expressing the truth' where such an endeavor is impossible in the first place by virtue of the structures of the language use.

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    Post by promethean75 on Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:21 am

    Uncle Bobby and wife toyah as contestants on a gameshow. Willy fred the rabbit, sadly, does not accompany them and stays at home.




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    Post by promethean75 on Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:31 am

    http://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=193986&p=2710808#p2710808

    this will be the theme song to ecmandu's life....



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    Post by promethean75 on Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:00 pm

    This one pulls no punches. Outstanding.



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    Post by promethean75 on Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:18 pm

    ^^^ so you know that's Joyner doing the voice over of the white dude... if I needed to tell you.

    What I don't like is how Joyner uses a stereotypical overweight redneck to represent the voice of the white race's complaint.... and the fact that Joyner goes last rather than vice versa. Both subtle devices of propaganda and favoritism. Ultimately he's not trying to be fair and unbiased, though he does an excellent job persuading the viewers that he is. He thinks that by accurately portraying the severest of white sentiments in such a way that the viewer momentarily sides with the redneck, winning the viewers over to the black side in the end will be of greater significance. The dangerous part is; he portrays the white complaint too well... something the viewer might NOT recover from and therefore refuse to side with the black complaint in the end.

    What does the trick though is going last. It's always the last turn that you remember more and are impacted by the most.


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    Post by promethean75 on Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:12 pm

    Watched 'the aviator' and I thought Cate blanchett did a SUPERB job playing Katherine hepburn.


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    Post by promethean75 on Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:32 pm

    Two more wonderful scenes:





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    Post by Yong Bao on Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:45 am

    Rosa Lichtenstein wrote:Activate Zoot Allures (to kill the philosophers).


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    Post by promethean75 on Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:09 am

    nuh-uh she didn't say that. did she really say that? show me where she said that.

    was it in the essay published in 2007 entitled How Zoot Allures Came To Understand Wittgenstein And Then Started Fucking With Philosophers Just For Fun? or was it in the one published in 2009 entitled Like Zoot Allures Is The Only Dude At Revleft That Realizes What A Windbag Hegel Truly Was?

    no seriously though, rosa and i used to roll together bro. well until they locked me in the opposing ideologies forum for expressing some hard earned nietzschean sentiments that for me questioned the very foundation upon which the idea of socialism is founded. i think that's when i became a fascist. i was like fuck this man, if you people want a socialism then goddammit i'll give it to you, just put me in charge and give me complete executive power. then they were like 'NOT!', so i was like fuck ya'll then i'm an anarchist.

    yeah i miss my old comrade rosa. she used to give me lessons and tips in pms for how to beat up philosophers. dude she was trained under logicians who were trained under frege. real shit, bruh. This means I was trained by someone who was trained by someone who was trained by frege. rememba that.

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    this is so funny. dude is so far in over his head he can barely manage to articulate his own thoughts. it'll take almost sixty seconds of this video for you to realize this guy has no business debating big rosa. the concept of a trotskyist who does not endorse dialectical materialism literally blows this dude's mind, and he spends more time quibbling over definitions of revisionism and external forces then trying to make a sincere effort in understanding rosa's logical refutation of hegelian dialectical change.

    and look at the video comments; all the communists gather around to give support to the poor dolt.



    oh it is so over for you, kid. i don't even want to watch.

    click before reading:

    http://anti-dialectics.co.uk/Refuting_a_weak_attempt_to_refute_me_04.htm


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    get down to the nitty gritty @ 2:19



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    Post by promethean75 on Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:03 pm

    if you are ever able to read something you have posted and switch perspectives- reading the post as someone else- and are then able to understand how something you've said could be interpreted to mean something other than what you meant, you've made the first step toward your recovery.

    but being able to do this requires that you expand your overall understanding of philosophy to include those disciplines that are very critical of philosophy itself (e.g., ordinary language philosophy). only then can you re-immerse yourself into philosophical dialogue with the new, additional ability to recognize ambiguous writing. if you do this you will also learn to be more patient with your interlocutors; you'll be able to see what you've written through their eyes, and therefore understand the dubious nature of your writing.


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    Post by promethean75 on Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:02 pm

    ooo here's a good one! really great job explaining ayer's emotivism. to some- moralists like ecmandu and others who insist that values express anything more than personal tastes- this will be a terrifying experience. for others, quite liberating.



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    Post by promethean75 on Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:07 pm

    Nigga please. Cracker talkin' bout interracial marraige. Knock his ass out, ali!





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    Post by promethean75 on Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:22 pm

    jesus vigorelli get a grip, dude. i will not 'tear you apart' if you make me mad. you're fuckin' up my PR. i'm a whirlwind of congenial (or was it congenital) speed and sincere bonhomie, remember? oh wait, you didn't even read suzanne white's webpage, did ya? so you think you're an expert and now you're shooting videos about my wood? no wonder the video is so SHORT.

    ohhhhhhhhhhh

    omg did i just say that?

    no seriously, i'm good. really. I'M GOOD.

    no you dumbass. why the fuck would i even say that if i wasn't good? like why would i even put myself out there like that? it was a joke, einstein. DUH.

    alright look, you got the basics down but you fail to summarize the much wider range of the tiger sign, and for that i give you a four. take it, as a token of my generosity, and be glad you didn't piss me off, buddy. i usually make a snack out of guys like you.

    rawr






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    scratch


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    I would say 'RIP, jaco', but he's still playing in an alternate universe somewhere.

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    Post by promethean75 on Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:14 am

    Pastorius developed a self-destructive habit of provoking bar fights and allowing himself to be beaten up. After sneaking onstage at a Carlos Santana concert on September 11, 1987 and being ejected from the premises, he made his way to the Midnight Bottle Club in Wilton Manors, Florida. After reportedly kicking in a glass door, having been refused entrance to the club, he was in a violent confrontation with Luc Havan, the club's manager who was a martial arts expert. Pastorius was hospitalized for multiple facial fractures, injuries to his right eye and left arm, and fell into a coma. There were encouraging signs that he would come out of the coma and recover, but they soon faded. A brain hemorrhage a few days later led to brain death. He was taken off life support and died on September 21, 1987 at the age of 35 at Broward General Medical Center in Fort Lauderdale.






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    Post by promethean75 on Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:24 am

    jazz soloing (or any soloing for that matter) is for giving the musician an opportunity to 'show his stuff' on the instrument. usually the musician has something in mind for his solo in advance so he doesn't run the risk of fucking it up. in the video i've seen of pastorius, i notice he plays the 'portrait of tracy' motif and then improvises around it... not knowing necessarily what he's going to do. some musicians can do this, though, because whatever they do, we know it's gonna be good. pastorius also seems to do a lot of 'goofing off' when he gets in the soloing zone, and what this is is a kind or permissible arrogance. he is saying without a word 'i don't need to take this so seriously because i know you know i could burn this bass up if i choose to.' his soloing always seems more like 'messing around'  rather than a carefully rigid performance... like what we would expect a musician to be doing while alone and practicing, rather than on stage during a show. only the best can do this... can enter into a freeplay mode without jeopardizing the quality of the solo. with jaco, the solo is not used to prove his skill; his skill is proven in the songs he plays with the band. the solos are used for playing around with a mocking air of supremacy. for other musicians it tends to be the opposite; because of the simplicity of the music they play, the musician needs to use his solo as an opportunity to demonstrate his real skill... to show the audience what they've really got. only a master does not need to take this so seriously....



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