taken from: https://pathos-of-distance.forumotion.com/t17-what-is-the-will-to-power
haha, yes, but a kind of fideistic faith, which is to say that there is no getting beyond the limits that kant discovered, for the acquisition of knowledge. we cannot know why logic is, but only that it must be in order for us to even ask this question about logic... because a question can make no sense without it. logic presupposes itself even when it has itself come into question.
in simpler words, if one were to believe that 'logic explains nothing', it would be only after logic was put to use in forming the argument against it, which then purports to reject it.
i mean propositional logic, of course. and this accounts for any philosophical narrative (including yours above) possible.
forget about the phrase "logical soundness and validity' for a moment and just think of logic as an 'appearance of meaning' in general. now it may be that there are realities in the world that we cannot get at (kant's noumena)... even nietzsche suggested this possibility when he said something along the lines of: 'there may be a metaphysical world, but what would remain of it if the human head were cut off."
this is where we find our limits. but the limits are not rigid in philosophy, and this is proved in the kinds of speculation philosophy engenders. philosophers try to talk about this world that they cannot get at, and while doing so, inadvertantly dismiss the very means with which they are able to believe they have discovered some truth about it. those means are logic.
now suppose one were to say that logic is psychologistic, meaning, it exists because of the way our brains and nervous systems work. the supposition being that if we weren't designed like we are, logic might not exist. but this poses a problem. if we are designed by the world, then our design reflects the same fundamental structures the world has... and therefore logic must already be possible.
there again we can't 'cut of the head' and take a look at the world afterward. hence, the fideism.
my faith in logic is founded on these two principles; the impossibility to refute it without employing it, and the impossibility of the human being something fundamentally different than the world.
MS wrote:Zoot has faith in logic:
haha, yes, but a kind of fideistic faith, which is to say that there is no getting beyond the limits that kant discovered, for the acquisition of knowledge. we cannot know why logic is, but only that it must be in order for us to even ask this question about logic... because a question can make no sense without it. logic presupposes itself even when it has itself come into question.
in simpler words, if one were to believe that 'logic explains nothing', it would be only after logic was put to use in forming the argument against it, which then purports to reject it.
i mean propositional logic, of course. and this accounts for any philosophical narrative (including yours above) possible.
forget about the phrase "logical soundness and validity' for a moment and just think of logic as an 'appearance of meaning' in general. now it may be that there are realities in the world that we cannot get at (kant's noumena)... even nietzsche suggested this possibility when he said something along the lines of: 'there may be a metaphysical world, but what would remain of it if the human head were cut off."
this is where we find our limits. but the limits are not rigid in philosophy, and this is proved in the kinds of speculation philosophy engenders. philosophers try to talk about this world that they cannot get at, and while doing so, inadvertantly dismiss the very means with which they are able to believe they have discovered some truth about it. those means are logic.
now suppose one were to say that logic is psychologistic, meaning, it exists because of the way our brains and nervous systems work. the supposition being that if we weren't designed like we are, logic might not exist. but this poses a problem. if we are designed by the world, then our design reflects the same fundamental structures the world has... and therefore logic must already be possible.
there again we can't 'cut of the head' and take a look at the world afterward. hence, the fideism.
my faith in logic is founded on these two principles; the impossibility to refute it without employing it, and the impossibility of the human being something fundamentally different than the world.